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Everybody will tell you to prove it was their fault. That is not the question here.

In almost every other kind of compensation claim, the first thing anybody asks is whose fault it was. In this one, fault is not the test. The question is narrower and much duller: was the person at work, doing their work, when it happened. The claim attaches to the employment relationship, not to anybody’s conduct. And once you see that, a great deal changes. The evidence that matters is completely different. Not witnesses to carelessness, not photographs of a badly kept machine, not an account of who broke which rule. Attendance. The duty roster. Whatever instruction sent that person to that place at that time. A gate entry. A site log. The name of the supervisor on shift. None of it looks like evidence to a family in a crisis, and all of it is what the claim is made of. Which leads to the central difficulty, and nobody warns people about it: the person the claim is against is also the keeper of the proof. Those records sit with the employer by the ordinary nature of running a workplace. That is not a conspiracy — and it is why the sequence matters, because records mostly vanish by attrition rather than by anybody deciding to lose them. The supervisor moves sites. A register fills up. A contractor’s engagement ends. So the first week is worth more than the first month, and a request made before anybody is thinking in terms of a claim is answered differently from one made after. Then the thing that misleads both sides equally: fault’s irrelevance cuts both ways. The injured person’s own carelessness does not automatically end a claim of this kind, which families do not believe; and an employer’s blameless safety record does not automatically answer one, which employers do not believe. So both parties routinely arrive arguing a case nobody is going to decide — and saying so plainly usually takes the heat out of the matter, because this is not an accusation. Two more. The hard matters are not the severe injuries. They are the ones where the connection to the work is arguable — travelling, a break, an errand, somewhere that is not the usual workplace. And the person who most needs this claim usually has the fewest papers: no appointment letter, no payslips, sometimes not even certainty about who the employer was. What we rule out: no figure, no view on which route to take, and nothing about how a proceeding will turn out — all three belong to an advocate, and on this subject we say so at the beginning rather than the end.

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My brother was injured at the factory where he works. Everyone around us is saying the same thing, that we must prove the company was negligent, and two people have offered to find witnesses who will say the machine was faulty. The company is being polite but has not given us anything in writing. We do not know where to start and we are losing days. What should we actually be doing?I am going to disagree with the advice you are being given, and then tell you what I would do with the next week if it were my family. Start with the question, because everything else follows from it and almost everybody gets it wrong. In most kinds of compensation claim, the first question is whose fault it was. That is how road claims work, that is how claims about professional carelessness work, and because those are the kinds of claim people have heard about, it is the question everybody reaches for. A claim of this kind, arising out of employment, does not work that way. The question is not who was careless. The question is whether what happened arose in the course of the work. In plain words: was he at work, doing his work, when it happened. That is the join the whole thing rests on. I want to be careful here. I am not telling you that nothing about the circumstances can ever matter, and I am not giving you a legal opinion about your brother’s case, which I am not in a position to do. What I am telling you is where to spend the next seven days, and that is a different kind of question. Now notice what the two witnesses being offered to you actually produce. They produce evidence about the machine. Evidence about the machine speaks to fault. If fault is not the test, that evidence is largely aimed at a point nobody will be deciding, and meanwhile the records that do decide it are sitting in an office you have not asked, getting quietly older. So here is what the claim is actually made of, and I apologise for how boring it is. Attendance. The shift or duty roster for that day. Whatever instruction put him at that particular place at that particular time, if there was one in writing. A gate entry or a security register. A site log. The name of the supervisor who was on duty. Possibly a job card or a work order. None of that feels like evidence when somebody in your family is in hospital. All of it is the file. And now the part that I most want you to act on today, because it is the real difficulty in this subject and nobody will mention it to you. Think about who holds those papers. The attendance is with the company. The roster is with the company. The instruction, the register, the log, all with the company. In other words, the person the claim will be against is also the custodian of the proof of it. I am not suggesting anybody is going to shred anything. In my experience that is rarely what happens. What happens is far more ordinary and just as damaging. The supervisor who was there gets transferred to another site. The register fills up and goes into a cupboard. A contractor’s engagement ends and their paperwork leaves with them. A system gets replaced and the old data is not migrated. Nobody did anything wrong at any point, and the evidence is gone. Which is exactly why the first week is worth more than the first month, and why I would do one specific thing immediately. Ask for the records now, in writing, politely, while the company is still being polite and while nobody is thinking of this as a claim. A request that reads like a family trying to understand what happened to their brother is answered completely differently from a request that arrives once lawyers are involved. Ask for attendance for that period, the shift record, and any written instruction about where he was working. Keep whatever you are given. Photograph anything you are shown but not given. Write down the date you asked, who you asked, and what they said. If they give you nothing, that is also worth writing down, with the date. Then there is a point that may change how this whole thing feels in your house, and it is about the employer rather than about you. Because fault is not the test, this claim is not an accusation against anybody. It does not require showing that the company did something wrong. It attaches to the employment, not to conduct. I raise it because the irrelevance of fault cuts in both directions and both sides usually get it backwards. Families believe that if the injured person was partly careless himself, the claim is finished. Very often that is not so. And employers believe that if they followed every rule and kept the place properly, that answers the claim. Very often that is not so either. So you get two parties in a room, one trying to prove blame and the other trying to disprove it, and the question in front of them is neither. I have seen matters become unnecessarily bitter purely because nobody said that out loud, and I have seen companies start cooperating properly the moment they understood that their own care was not under attack. It is worth saying to them, in those words, when you ask for the records. Now the honest difficulties, because I do not want to make this sound simpler than it is. The hard cases in this subject are not the serious injuries. They are the ones where the join to the work is arguable. Something that happens while travelling. During a break. On an errand. At a place that is not the usual workplace. A sudden illness that arrives while somebody is at work. In those matters the small facts of the day decide everything, and they decay fast, because a year later everybody is describing the day from memory and the descriptions no longer agree. So whatever else you do, write one page today. Not a conclusion, not an argument. Just: where he was, what he was doing, on whose instruction, at what time, who else was present, who was told first, and what happened in the hours after. Dates and names. In my experience that single page, written in the first week, ends up being worth more than anything anybody produces later, and practically nobody is told to write it. Two things I am not going to answer for you, and I would rather say so than be vague. The first is the amount. Any figure depends on matters I cannot assess from here, and if I gave you a number you would hope on it. I am not willing to do that to a family. Be wary of anybody who gives you one quickly, in a first conversation, before a file exists. The second is route. Depending on the facts, more than one kind of claim may be available to your brother, and choosing between them is a legal decision rather than an administrative one. It can depend on things that are not obvious from the outside, and once a step is taken it often cannot be undone. That decision belongs to an advocate, instructed on his actual facts, and it should be made before anything is filed anywhere. On that subject, I will say something I do not say on most pages. This is one of the clearest situations I know of where you want an advocate early rather than late. Not because the paperwork is difficult, but because the decisions that matter most are theirs from the beginning, and because an advocate instructed with an empty file has to spend their first month doing the collecting that could have been done in the first week by anybody, including you. That is also, honestly, where our own work sits. We build the file. We establish the connection from records rather than from accounts of blame, we write down the chain of who engaged him, who instructed him and who paid him, which families very often have wrong because the person paying is not always the person who engaged, we list what exists and what should exist and is missing, and we help you ask for things properly and in time. We do not run the proceeding, we do not advise on route, we do not estimate anything and we will not tell you what is going to happen. One last thing about the company being polite. It may be entirely sincere, and you should still keep your own set of papers. Not out of suspicion, but because people move on and offices change, and a document that exists only in somebody else’s office is a document you cannot produce. Take a copy of everything. Note where it came from and when. If this resolves smoothly, you have lost one afternoon and nothing else.

What this guide covers

  1. The question that is not asked
  2. Every other claim asks about fault
  3. This one asks about connection
  4. Was it in the course of the work
  5. Why that changes everything
  6. Both sides arrive arguing wrongly
  7. The worker who blames himself
  8. The employer who proves care
  9. Neither of those decides it
  10. The wrong evidence gets collected
  11. Witnesses about carelessness
  12. Photographs of the place
  13. What actually decides it
  14. Attendance and the duty record
  15. The instruction that sent them there
  16. The gate entry and the log
  17. Who normally keeps those
  18. And that is the difficulty
  19. Nobody preserves them
  20. The respondent holds the proof
  21. An asymmetry with no parallel
  22. Why it is not dishonesty
  23. Records move on when people do
  24. Ask before anybody is thinking claim
  25. The first-week request
  26. Keep your own copy of everything
  27. What a copy is worth later
  28. If you are already past that week
  29. What still exists elsewhere
  30. Fault’s irrelevance cuts both ways
  31. The worker’s own carelessness
  32. Why families do not believe this
  33. The employer’s safety record
  34. Why employers do not believe it either
  35. The two misunderstandings meet
  36. What this means for the tone
  37. It is not an accusation
  38. The hard cases are not the injuries
  39. They are the join
  40. Travelling to and from
  41. The break and the errand
  42. The illness that arrived at work
  43. Work away from the workplace
  44. What makes a join arguable
  45. What strengthens it
  46. Say what happened plainly
  47. More than one route may exist
  48. Choosing is not administrative
  49. And often it cannot be undone
  50. The claimant with the fewest papers
  51. What substitutes for an appointment letter
  52. What this page does not decide
  53. Six quiet failures
  54. The first-week file
  55. Who reaches us about this
  56. What we build before any proceeding
  57. What we cannot promise
  58. Where the advocate leads
  59. Our fee on the file

The question that is not asked

Begin with the question, because every other thing on this page is a consequence of it, and because the question people expect is the wrong one.

When somebody is hurt and compensation comes up, the mind goes immediately to blame. That is not foolish. It is how most compensation in the world works, and it is the only version of the subject most people have ever encountered.

A claim arising out of employment does not turn on blame. It turns on whether the thing happened in the course of the work.

Every other claim asks about fault

Look at the neighbours and the pattern is uniform.

A road claim is largely a question about how somebody drove. A claim about professional carelessness is a question about whether a standard was met. A third-party claim rests on somebody being answerable for what they did.

So the whole surrounding landscape teaches one lesson: find out who was careless and prove it. People arrive here having learned that lesson well, which is precisely the difficulty.

This one asks about connection

Here the subject of enquiry is not conduct at all. It is a relationship.

The claim attaches to employment. What has to be shown is that this person stood in that relationship, and that what happened to them belongs to it rather than to the rest of their life.

So the enquiry is about a join, not about a failing. Those are different investigations, with different papers, pointed at different people.

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Was it in the course of the work

Reduced to ordinary language, the thing to be able to show is this.

That this person was at work, doing their work, when it happened.

Not that the work was dangerous. Not that it could have been done more safely. Not that somebody should have noticed something. Simply that the person was there, in that capacity, doing that thing.

Exactly where the boundaries of that sentence lie, in a particular situation, is a legal question and this page will not pretend otherwise. But knowing that it is the sentence changes what you spend your first week on.

Why that changes everything

Three consequences, and they run through the rest of this guide.

We put this at the front rather than the end because the first week is where it costs something. A family that spends it gathering the wrong material cannot get that week back.

Both sides arrive arguing wrongly

And here is the odd thing we see repeatedly: the mistake is symmetrical.

The family arrives determined to prove the employer was at fault. The employer arrives determined to prove it was not. Both have read the situation through the lens of every other compensation claim they know about.

So two parties spend months in an argument about a question that is not the test, growing more hostile over it, while the records that would settle the actual question age quietly in a cupboard.

The worker who blames himself

The version of this that does the most damage is the quietest one, and it happens in the first conversation.

An injured person says, or a family says on their behalf: he was in a hurry, he should have been more careful, he had done it that way a hundred times. That is said honestly, often out of a kind of decency.

And then somebody concludes, from that honesty, that there is no claim — which is frequently wrong, and the conclusion gets reached without anybody ever asking a person who would know.

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The employer who proves care

The mirror image, and it is just as sincere.

An employer gathers its training records, its maintenance log, its safety certificates and its instructions, and presents a genuinely good account of a well-run workplace. All of it may be entirely true.

And then concludes that the matter is therefore answered. A blameless employer is not thereby a non-liable one in a claim of this kind, and the surprise, when it comes, is not pleasant for them either.

Neither of those decides it

Set the two beliefs beside the actual question and the waste is obvious.

 What each side arguesWhat is actually in issue
The familyThe employer was carelessHe was at work, doing work
The employerWe were not carelessHe was at work, doing work
Evidence gatheredWitnesses, photographs, blameAttendance, roster, instruction
Tone producedAccusation and defenceA factual question
Time spentMonthsA week, done early

The fourth row matters as much as the others. An argument about blame makes enemies of people who did not need to be enemies.

The wrong evidence gets collected

Which brings us to what actually gets gathered in the first fortnight, and why.

It is gathered energetically and in good faith, by people who are frightened and want to be doing something. And it is nearly all aimed at fault, because that is what everybody around them has said to do.

Witnesses about carelessness

The commonest item, and the one most often volunteered by somebody helpful.

A co-worker who will say the equipment was poorly maintained. Somebody who will say warnings had been given and ignored. A person who will describe how the place was run.

That material speaks to blame. It is not useless — but it is not what the question turns on, and in our files it is the single largest category of effort spent on the wrong thing.

What those same people can establish, and nobody thinks to ask them, is far more useful: that the person was present, on duty, doing that task, on the instruction of that supervisor.

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Photographs of the place

The second commonest, and worth separating because photographs are not worthless — they are simply often pointed at the wrong thing.

Pictures of a broken guard, a wet floor, a frayed cable: all about fault. Pictures that show where the person was, what they were working on, the site itself, the gate, a notice board with a roster on it: about the join.

If somebody is going to a workplace with a phone, photograph the register, the roster board and the gate log, not only the machine. That single redirection is worth more than any witness.

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What actually decides it

So here is the list we work from on every one of these, in the order we ask for it.

  1. Attendance for the period, in whatever form it is kept.
  2. The duty roster or shift record for that day.
  3. Any written instruction that placed the person at that location or task.
  4. Gate entry, security register or biometric log.
  5. The site log or job card, where one exists.
  6. The name of the supervisor on duty, and of the people present.
  7. Payment records, however irregular, showing the engagement.

None of it is dramatic. All of it is ordinary business paper, which is exactly why it is reliable and exactly why nobody thinks to preserve it.

Attendance and the duty record

These two carry more weight than anything else on the list, because together they answer the question almost on their own.

Attendance establishes that the person was at work that day. The roster establishes what they were supposed to be doing and where. Put beside each other, they place a named person in a named place in a working capacity at a time.

They are also the two items most likely to exist, because a workplace cannot run without them. Which makes it all the more painful when they are asked for eight months too late.

The instruction that sent them there

The most valuable single item, when it exists, and the most often overlooked.

A message telling somebody to go to a particular site. A note assigning a task. A work order. A WhatsApp line from a supervisor saying be at the second gate by seven.

An instruction is the cleanest possible proof of the join, because it shows the work putting the person where the thing happened.

It is also the item most likely to be on somebody’s phone rather than in a file, which means it can be preserved immediately, by you, before anybody else is involved at all.

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The gate entry and the log

And then the quiet records nobody thinks of as records.

A security register at the gate. A biometric or card entry. A visitor book at a client site. A transport log for a vehicle that carried workers. A delivery sheet signed at a time.

These are useful out of proportion to how trivial they look, for two reasons: they are contemporaneous, written at the time by somebody with no interest in the question, and they are time-stamped, which memory never is.

Who normally keeps those

Now go back through that list and ask, for each item, where it physically lives.

Attendance: the employer. Roster: the employer. Instruction: a supervisor’s phone, or the employer’s system. Gate register: the employer, or the site owner. Site log: the employer. Payment records: the employer, and sometimes a bank.

With one or two exceptions, the entire file is in the hands of the party the claim is made against.

And that is the difficulty

Which is the central practical problem of this subject, and it has no parallel in any other kind of claim we handle.

In a road matter the police record exists independently. In an insurance dispute the policy documents are in the claimant’s own hands. In a dispute about a contract, both parties hold a copy of the same paper.

Here the claimant holds almost nothing, and the respondent holds almost everything — not by design, but because that is how workplace records work.

Nobody preserves them

And nothing in the ordinary course causes anybody to set them aside.

The family does not know they matter. The employer, at that moment, is dealing with an injured worker and an upset workforce and is not thinking about which register will be needed in a year. Nobody has told either side that the attendance sheet for that fortnight is the most important document in the building.

So the records are not hidden. They are simply left in the normal flow of things, which takes them away on its own schedule. The next section is about that.

The respondent holds the proof

Stated as plainly as we can, because it is the thing we would most want a family to understand on day two.

The person the claim is against is also the keeper of the evidence for it.

Not some of it. Nearly all of it. And that single fact determines the order in which everything should be done, which is why this page spends more space on sequence than on substance.

An asymmetry with no parallel

It is worth seeing how unusual this is, because the unusualness is what makes people get the sequence wrong.

Kind of matterWho holds the proof
A road claimAn independent official record exists
An insurance disputeYou hold the policy and the bills
A contract disputeBoth sides hold the same document
A service disputeMixed — you hold your own letters
This claimThe other side holds it all

In every other row there is something you can produce without anybody’s cooperation. In the last row there is very little, unless you act early.

Why it is not dishonesty

We want to be fair about this, because treating it as bad faith leads people to behave in ways that make the records harder to get, not easier.

In the matters that reach us, deliberate destruction is rare. What is common is something much more ordinary, and the next section describes it.

Approaching an employer as though they are concealing something is the fastest way to turn a cooperative office into a cautious one. A cautious office refers you to somebody, and that somebody takes three weeks.

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Records move on when people do

Here is how the evidence actually goes, and it is nobody’s fault.

Nobody decided anything. Six months passed, and the file became unavailable by ordinary means.

Ask before anybody is thinking claim

Which gives the single most useful instruction on this page, and it is about timing rather than technique.

Ask for the records while the matter is still a family trying to understand what happened. Not after lawyers are involved, not after a notice has gone, not after somebody has used the word compensation in a raised voice.

The same request, with the same words, is answered very differently depending on when it arrives. Early, it is handled by whoever has the file. Later, it is handled by somebody whose job is to be careful.

The first-week request

What the request should contain, kept short and unthreatening:

  1. Attendance for the relevant period.
  2. The shift or duty record for the day.
  3. Any written instruction about where the person was to work.
  4. Confirmation of the engagement — when they started, in what capacity, through whom.
  5. The gate or security entry for that day, if the site keeps one.

In writing, politely, addressed to a person by name, with a line saying what it is for. And one sentence that changes how it lands: that you are not alleging anybody did anything wrong. That sentence is true, and it is the most useful thing in the letter.

Keep your own copy of everything

And then the discipline that costs an afternoon and decides matters a year later.

Everything you are given, keep. Everything you are shown but not given, photograph. Everything you are told, write down with the date and the name of the person who told you.

Including the refusals. A note saying that on a particular date a named person declined to provide the attendance record is itself a useful document, and it exists only if somebody wrote it down at the time.

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What a copy is worth later

A word on why this matters more here than in most subjects.

A document that exists only in somebody else’s office is a document you cannot produce. Not cannot produce easily — cannot produce. People move on, offices change hands, premises close, and the obligation to keep things does not last forever.

The time to secure a copy is while somebody is willing to hand you one, and willingness is highest in the first fortnight and falls thereafter.

Where you need a formally certified version of something rather than a photograph, that is its own small piece of work and worth doing for the two or three items that carry the weight.

If you are already past that week

Many people reading this are months in, and the approach changes rather than ending.

Stop trying to recover the one register that has gone, and start assembling from independent directions. A workplace leaves traces in more places than its own filing cabinet, and several weak traces assembled together are sometimes stronger than one strong record would have been — because they are independent of each other and of the employer.

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What still exists elsewhere

Where we look when the employer’s own file is no longer available:

We put this list in writing because families assume that a lost register ends the matter. It frequently does not, and the reconstruction is ordinary work rather than detective work.

Fault’s irrelevance cuts both ways

Back to the central idea, because it has a second half that is just as important as the first and much less often said.

If fault is not the test, then nobody’s fault is the test. Not the employer’s, which families expect. And not the injured person’s either, which they do not.

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The worker’s own carelessness

So the sentence families most need to hear is this one.

That the injured person was hurrying, distracted, or doing the job the way he had always done it does not, by itself, end a claim of this kind.

How far that holds in a particular situation is a legal question, and we will not go further than the general shape of it here. What we will say is that the opposite belief — that any carelessness ends everything — is held confidently by a great many people and acted on in the first week.

Why families do not believe this

And it is worth understanding why, because knowing the reason makes the point easier to accept.

Everything they know about compensation comes from fault-based claims, where carelessness on your own part genuinely does reduce or defeat what you recover. That instinct is correctly learned from the wrong subject.

There is also something else, and it is not about law at all. People who have just been through something frightening are often keen to take responsibility for it, and they say so early, to anybody who asks. That honesty then gets treated as a legal concession by somebody who should have known better.

The employer’s safety record

Now the other half, addressed to whoever is on the other side of this, because it saves everybody months.

An employer with proper training records, a maintained machine, a clean history and written safety instructions has an excellent account of itself. All of it may be true and documented.

And none of it is an answer to the question being asked, which is about the connection to the work rather than the quality of the workplace. That is an unwelcome discovery to make late.

Why employers do not believe it either

For the mirror-image reason, which is almost pleasing in its symmetry.

An employer’s entire experience of risk is fault-based: insurance, contracts, consumer complaints, regulatory matters. In all of those, demonstrating that you did everything properly is the answer. So demonstrating it here feels like the answer too.

We say this to employers who ask us about it as readily as to families. It is not advice on their position, which is for their own advocate. It is simply the same correction, pointed the other way.

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The two misunderstandings meet

And then the two of them sit down in the same room.

One side says: you were negligent. The other says: we were not, and in any case he was. Both become more certain and less cooperative, because each believes the other is arguing in bad faith about something obvious.

Meanwhile the attendance register for that fortnight, which neither of them has mentioned, is three months closer to being unavailable.

What this means for the tone

Which has a practical consequence that is worth more than any document on this page.

Because fault is not in issue, the matter does not have to be adversarial from the beginning — and whether it is adversarial determines whether you get the records.

We are not suggesting anybody be naive, or that cooperation should be relied upon instead of copies. We are saying that the one thing which reliably destroys access to evidence is a first contact that reads as an accusation.

It is not an accusation

So this is worth saying out loud, in the first conversation and in the first letter.

Nobody is suggesting you did anything wrong. We are trying to establish what he was doing and on whose instruction.

That sentence is accurate. It is also the sentence that most often turns a careful office back into a helpful one, and in our experience it has recovered more records than any formal step taken afterwards.

The hard cases are not the injuries

A shift of subject now, because people assume the difficulty scales with how serious the harm was. It does not.

A grave injury with a clean connection to the work is, as a documentary matter, straightforward. A minor one with an arguable connection can be genuinely difficult.

The difficulty is never in the harm. It is always in the join.

They are the join

Which means the situations to be careful about are identifiable in advance, and all of them share one feature: the person was not plainly at their usual workplace doing their usual task.

Four come up repeatedly, and the next four sections take them in turn. In each, we are not going to tell you the answer — we are going to tell you which facts decide it, so that you write them down while they are still exact.

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Travelling to and from

The commonest arguable situation, and the one where people most want a general rule.

There is no general rule available on a page, because it turns on the particulars. What to record, today, in detail:

Where a vehicle is involved there may be more than one kind of claim available, which is dealt with further down and is a decision for an advocate rather than for you.

The break and the errand

The second: something that happens during an interval, or while the person is doing something adjacent to the work.

Fetching something. Going to eat. Helping with a task that was not theirs. Being sent out for a few minutes by somebody. Returning to the site early.

The facts that matter are about who asked, what for, and whether the activity served the work. Record the name of whoever asked, if anybody did, and whether a request existed in any written form — a message, a note, anything.

The illness that arrived at work

The third, and the one we treat most carefully, because it is where the strongest feelings and the weakest documents meet.

Something medical happens while a person is at work. The family is certain the work caused it. The employer is certain it did not. Neither of them can know, and we certainly cannot.

This page carries no medical content of any kind and we will not offer any view about causes. What we can do is preserve the facts: what the person was doing, for how long, in what conditions, what they said at the time, who they said it to, and exactly when they went for help. That record is what allows somebody qualified to answer the question later.

Work away from the workplace

And the fourth, which is more common every year.

Work done at a client’s premises, at a site, in a vehicle, at home, or anywhere the employer does not control. The connection to the work may be perfectly real and is harder to show, because none of the usual records exist in the usual place.

Here the proof is almost always in the assignment rather than the location: what the person had been told to do that day, by whom, and what they were in fact doing. That is why the instruction matters so much, and why we ask about messages before we ask about anything else.

What makes a join arguable

Pulling the four together, the common features are identifiable and worth knowing in advance.

If two or more of those apply, this is a matter to put in front of an advocate quickly rather than to work up slowly, because the facts that decide it are the ones that fade fastest.

What strengthens it

And the things that make an arguable join a documented one, all of which are available in the first days and almost none of which are available later.

  1. Anything written that assigned the task — even one line on a phone.
  2. A named person who gave the instruction, recorded while everyone still remembers.
  3. A contemporaneous account — what the person said at the hospital, to whom, that day.
  4. A pattern — evidence that this was a normal part of the work, done before, by others too.
  5. The employer’s own first reaction, in writing if it exists: who they informed, what they recorded, what they said at the time.

That last one is often the strongest item in the file, and it exists only if somebody kept the message or noted the conversation in the first week.

Say what happened plainly

Which brings us to the single page we ask every family to write before we do anything else.

Not a statement, not an argument, not a submission. Plain sentences, in order: where the person was, what they were doing, on whose instruction, at what time, who else was there, who was told first, and what happened in the hours afterwards.

Dates and names. No conclusions, no blame, and nothing you are not sure of — where you are unsure, write that you are unsure.

In our experience that page, written in the first week, is worth more than anything produced from memory a year later, and practically nobody is ever told to write it.

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More than one route may exist

Now a matter we are deliberately going to leave unanswered, and we want to explain why rather than simply going quiet.

Depending on the facts, more than one kind of claim may be available for the same event — for instance where a vehicle was involved as well as the employment, which is a different claim entirely with a different test and a different forum.

Choosing is not administrative

And choosing between them is not a form-filling decision.

It can depend on facts that are not obvious from the outside, on what each route requires to be proved, and on considerations that have nothing to do with which sounds simpler. It is a legal judgement on a particular set of facts.

We are a document service. We can see what papers exist. We are not in a position to weigh routes, and anybody at our level who offers to is doing something we would not do.

And often it cannot be undone

Which matters especially because of what follows a wrong choice.

Once a step has been taken down one route, it frequently cannot be taken back. This is not a decision where a mistake costs time. It is one where a mistake can cost the claim.

So of everything on this page, this is the item we would most want somebody to take to an advocate first — before a notice, before a filing, before anybody signs or accepts anything.

The claimant with the fewest papers

An uncomfortable pattern, stated because pretending otherwise helps nobody.

The people who most need a claim of this kind are usually the ones with the least documentation of their own working life. No written agreement. No appointment letter. No payslips. Sometimes genuine uncertainty about who the employer actually was, because one person called them to work, another gave instructions and a third paid.

That is not a reason to assume there is nothing here. It is a reason to assemble differently, and the next section is how.

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What substitutes for an appointment letter

What we build the engagement from when the formal papers do not exist:

Where any of those are in another language, a proper translation is worth having rather than a summary, and where a document’s own authenticity may be questioned, checking it is better done now than when somebody else raises it.

A file assembled from eight ordinary traces, each independent of the others, is a real file. We have put together stronger ones this way than from a single employer record.

What this page does not decide

Everything above is about which facts matter and how to preserve them. None of it is about what any of it is worth or how any of it will end. Those sit elsewhere, and on this subject the boundary is firmer than on most:

All of that is for an advocate instructed on your facts, with the medical part for the treating doctors. We say it here, early and in full, because this is one of the clearest advocate-first subjects we write about — and because a family given a number to hope for has been done a real harm.

Six quiet failures

Six endings from matters that reached us. In each, the people involved were doing their best with the advice they had been given.

  1. The fortnight spent on fault. Witnesses lined up about a machine; the attendance register never asked for.
  2. The honest admission. He said he was rushing. Somebody treated that as the end of the matter, and nobody qualified was ever asked.
  3. The polite company. They said they would handle everything. Eight months later the office had changed hands.
  4. The transferred supervisor. The only person who knew which gate he had been sent to, posted to another state.
  5. The accusation in week one. A letter alleging negligence; everything thereafter went through somebody careful, slowly.
  6. The step taken early. A route chosen on a well-meaning suggestion, before anybody qualified had looked at it.

Not one of the six was caused by the injury or by anybody’s bad faith. All six were caused in the first month, by the wrong question being asked.

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The first-week file

If you read nothing else here, this is the week that matters, and none of it needs a professional.

  1. Write the one page — where, what, on whose instruction, at what time, who was present, who was told first.
  2. Save every message on every phone about that day, that shift and that task. Back them up somewhere else.
  3. Request the records in writing, politely, with the sentence saying nobody is being accused.
  4. Photograph anything you are shown and note the date, the place and the person.
  5. Write down the chain — who called them to work, who instructed, who paid, whose site, whose equipment.
  6. Keep the hospital paperwork exactly as given, including the first page nobody thinks matters.
  7. Speak to an advocate, and do it before any step, notice or acceptance.

Seven items, two or three days, and no cost. In our experience this list decides more than everything that follows it.

Who reaches us about this

The people who call, roughly in order:

What we build before any proceeding

What this work with us actually consists of, in the order it happens:

What we cannot promise

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Where the advocate leads

On most subjects we describe the advocate’s part at the end. Here they lead, and we are the support, which is worth stating in that order:

Court work is for your advocate, whose fee is engaged and paid by you directly; we do not quote, collect or share it.

Our fee on the file

For assembling this file properly — writing the one page of facts with you, setting out the chain of who engaged, instructed and paid, establishing the connection to the work from records rather than from accounts of blame, drafting the request to the employer so that it reads as a request, keeping an inventory of what exists and what is missing with the dates each item was asked for, building from independent traces where the employer’s own file has gone, obtaining certified copies of the items that carry the weight, arranging translations where needed, and handing the whole thing over indexed and dated in a form an advocate can use immediately — our charge is ₹7,999. The window of 3 – 12 months reflects waiting on records held by other people; our own work is a matter of weeks.

Not included, and why each one sits apart:

What the money buys, said without decoration: a file built around the question that will actually be asked, assembled while the records still exist. Nothing about it is clever. It is a week of ordinary collecting, done in the right week, pointed at the right thing — which is the one part of this that cannot be bought back later at any price.

Where the injured person came through a contractor, the chain this page asks you to reconstruct is the same chain a contract-labour file records month by month in advance. Same evidence, a fraction of the cost, and available on the day it is needed rather than built after.

The question is the join, not the blame

We write the facts of the day down with you while they are exact, set out who engaged and instructed and paid, establish the connection to the work from attendance, rosters, instructions and entries rather than from accounts of fault, request those records in a form that reads as a request, build from independent traces where the employer’s file has gone, and hand an advocate a file they can use on day one. We give no figure, no view on route, and no prediction about any proceeding.

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Why this page is written the way it is, and what it refuses to contain

Nowhere on this page: a section number, an amount, a range, a formula, a time limit, a worked example of a calculation, an answer to any of the arguable situations it raises, or a word of medical content. On a page about a compensation claim, those are most of the things a reader hopes to find.

The reason is specific to who reads a page like this. Almost everybody arriving here is in the first fortnight after something serious, frightened, and looking for a number to hold on to. A figure printed here would be a figure written for nobody, about facts nobody has seen, and it would be believed — and a family that has started hoping on a number makes different decisions about what to accept and when. We regard putting one on this page as a thing that would do actual harm, which is a stronger reason than the usual one about accuracy. The same applies to answering the arguable situations: a general answer about travelling, or about a break, would be acted on by somebody whose facts are not the general case, and the mistake would surface at the one point where it cannot be fixed.

What is left once all that goes is the part that is the same in every one of these matters, and it is the part nobody gets told. That fault is not the test, so the energy spent proving blame is spent on a question nobody will decide. That the records which do decide it are dull, ordinary and specific. That the party the claim is against is also the keeper of them, and that they vanish through transfers, replaced systems and closed sites rather than through anybody’s decision. That fault’s irrelevance misleads both sides equally, so families concede claims they have and employers assume defences they do not. That the difficulty is never the injury but the join. And that the first week is worth more than everything after it. None of that depends on a figure or a provision.

Why the advocate appears at the top of this page rather than the bottom. On most subjects we write, the documentary work comes first and a lawyer is needed for a narrow slice at the end. Here the reverse is true: the decisions that matter most — route above all — arise at the very beginning and frequently cannot be revisited. A page that mentioned an advocate only in its closing paragraph would be structured dishonestly for this subject.

What is deliberately absent. No statute, provision or rule. No amount, multiplier or period. No view on whether any particular connection holds. No medical statement of any kind. No prediction about a proceeding. No figure other than our own fee. For your own situation the sources that matter are an advocate instructed on the facts, early and before any step is taken; the treating doctors for everything medical; the employer’s own records, which is why requesting them in the first week is the thing we press hardest; and the memories of the people who were there that day, which are the only evidence that degrades on its own and the only reason to write them down now.

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Questions people actually ask

Somebody in our family was hurt at work. Everybody is telling us to prove it was the company’s fault. Is that what we need to do?
That is the advice people are given and it is aimed at the wrong question. In almost every other kind of compensation claim the first thing anybody asks is whose fault it was. In this one, fault is not the question at all. The question is whether the injury arose in the course of the work. So the energy that goes into establishing blame is largely energy spent on a point nobody will decide, while the papers that actually settle it sit somewhere else entirely and are quietly disappearing.
So what is the question?
Put simply: was this person at work, doing their work, when it happened. That is the join the whole claim rests on. Not whether a machine was badly maintained, not whether a supervisor was careless, not whether anybody broke a rule. The connection between the work and what happened is the thing to establish, and it is established with ordinary, dull records rather than with accounts of who did what wrong.
Which records are those?
The unexciting ones. Attendance. The duty roster or shift record. Whatever instruction sent the person to that place at that time. A gate entry or register. A site log. The name of the supervisor on duty. None of it looks like evidence to a family in the middle of a crisis, and all of it is what the claim is actually made of. We ask for it first on every one of these, before anybody talks about blame.
Our relative was partly careless. Does that end the claim?
Very often it does not, and this is the single most common thing families get wrong — usually because somebody has told them otherwise with great confidence. Fault is not the test, and that works in both directions. The injured person’s own carelessness does not automatically destroy a claim of this kind, and the employer having an excellent safety record does not automatically answer one. Exactly how any of that applies on your facts is for an advocate; the point here is not to concede a claim away in the first week on a misunderstanding.
The company says it followed every rule and the accident was nobody’s fault.
That is frequently true and frequently irrelevant. Employers are as likely as families to be arguing the wrong case, and we see both sides do it in the same matter. One side comes in trying to prove blame and the other comes in trying to disprove it, and the question in front of them is neither. Once that is understood the conversation usually becomes far less hostile, which helps everybody.
Does that mean this is not an accusation against the employer?
Not in the way people assume, no, and saying so plainly often changes how a matter proceeds. A claim of this kind does not require anybody to be shown to have done wrong. It attaches to the employment relationship rather than to anybody’s conduct. We have seen employers cooperate properly once they understand that their own care is not being attacked — and we have seen matters become needlessly bitter because nobody explained it.
The employer has all the records. Is that a problem?
It is the central practical difficulty in this subject and nobody warns families about it. The person the claim is against is also the keeper of the proof. Attendance, rosters, instructions, logs — all of it sits with the employer by the ordinary nature of running a workplace. That is not a conspiracy; it is simply where such papers live. But it does mean the sequence of what you do, and when, matters more here than almost anywhere.
So what should we do about that?
Ask early, in writing, and keep your own copy of everything. The best moment to request work records is before anybody has begun thinking of the matter as a claim, when a request looks like a family wanting to understand what happened. Ask for attendance, the shift record, and whatever written instruction placed the person there. Keep what you are given, photograph what you are shown, and note the date and the name of whoever gave it to you.
Is the employer likely to destroy things?
That is rarely what happens and the risk is real anyway, which is worth separating. Records mostly disappear by ordinary attrition rather than by anybody deciding to lose them. The supervisor who knew moves to another site. A register fills up and is put away. A contractor’s engagement ends and their paperwork goes with them. A system is replaced. Nobody did anything wrong and the evidence is gone, which is why the first week matters so much more than the first month.
It has already been months. Is it too late?
Not necessarily, and the approach changes. We look for what exists outside the employer’s own files, because a workplace leaves traces in several places: a hospital record of when somebody arrived and what they said then, a police or other official record if one was made, payment records, phone records of calls made that day, a co-worker who kept their own notes, photographs with dates on them. What is reconstructed from several independent sources is sometimes stronger than a single register would have been.
What are the hard cases in this subject?
Not the severe injuries. The hard cases are the ones where the connection to the work is arguable — something that happened while travelling, during a break, on an errand, at a place that is not the usual workplace, or a sudden illness that arrived while somebody was at work. In those matters the facts of the day decide everything, and they need to be set down plainly and early rather than described from memory a year later.
It happened on the way to work. Does that count?
That is precisely the kind of question we will not answer on a page, because the answer turns on details we cannot see and a reader would act on whatever we wrote. What we can tell you is what to preserve: where the person was going, why, on whose instruction, by what route, in whose vehicle, and whether that journey was part of the work or incidental to it. Those facts decide it. Write them down now, while they are exact, and put the question to an advocate.
Somebody mentioned we might have a choice of routes. What does that mean?
In some situations more than one kind of claim may be available — for instance where a vehicle was involved as well as the employment. Choosing between them is a legal decision and not an administrative one, it can depend on facts that are not obvious, and it frequently cannot be undone once a step has been taken. This is the clearest example on this page of something you should not decide on advice from the internet, from us, or from anybody at the workplace.
Can you tell us which route is better?
No. We would be guessing with somebody else’s claim, and the consequence of guessing wrong is not recoverable. That decision belongs with an advocate instructed on your facts, and it should be taken before anything is filed anywhere. What we do is make sure that whichever route is chosen, the file supporting it is complete — which is work that has to happen either way and is usually what is missing.
Our relative was a contract worker with no appointment letter and no payslips. Is there any point?
There is, and this is the situation we see most. The person who most needs a claim of this kind is usually the one with the fewest papers, which is an uncomfortable fact about how this works in practice. What substitutes is everything that shows the person was there doing that work: gate entries, site registers, photographs, bank credits however irregular, a supervisor’s acknowledgement, co-workers, a contractor’s own records, messages arranging shifts. Assembled together, that is a real file.
Who is the employer, if there was a contractor involved?
That is one of the first things to get straight, and families frequently have it wrong because the person who paid them is not always the person who engaged them. Write down the whole chain as you understand it — who called them to work, who gave instructions, who paid, whose site it was, who supplied the equipment. Which of those matters legally is not for us to say, and having the chain written down accurately is what lets an advocate answer it quickly.
What exactly do you do, and what do you not do?
We build the file. We establish the connection between the work and what happened, from records rather than from accounts of blame. We write down the chain of who engaged, instructed and paid. We list what exists, what should exist and is missing, and where the gaps are. We help request records properly and in time. We do not conduct the proceeding, advise on route, estimate any amount, or tell you what will happen. Those belong to an advocate, and on this subject we say so earlier than on most.
Why will you not estimate the amount?
Because an honest estimate is not available from where we sit, and a dishonest one would be acted upon. Any figure depends on matters a page and a document service cannot assess. We would rather be the people who told you plainly that we do not know than the people who gave a family a number to hope for. Anybody producing a figure quickly, on a first conversation, with no advocate involved, is doing something we would not do.
How long does this take?
Our part — the file — runs to 3 – 12 months at the outer end, and most of that window is waiting on records held by other people rather than on our own work. The proceeding itself is a separate timeline entirely and belongs to your advocate, who can tell you realistically what it looks like. We would rather set out our own part precisely and say nothing about the rest than blur the two together.
Somebody from the company has offered a settlement. Should we take it?
We will not advise you on that, and we will say the one thing we think everybody is entitled to know: an offer made before anybody has established what the claim consists of is an offer made with information on one side only. Whether to accept is a decision for you with an advocate, not for a document service and not under time pressure. Nothing stops you having the file assembled first and deciding afterwards.
The employer is being cooperative and says they will handle everything.
That may well be sincere and it is still worth keeping your own set of papers. Not from suspicion — from the plain fact that people change jobs, companies change hands, and a file that exists only in somebody else’s office is a file you cannot produce. Take a copy of everything you are given, keep it together, and note the date and the source. If the matter resolves smoothly you have lost nothing but an afternoon.
What should we write down today?
One page, in plain words, while it is exact. Where the person was, what they were doing, on whose instruction, at what time, who was present, who was told first, and what happened in the hours after. Dates and names, not conclusions. In our experience this single page, written in the first week, is worth more than anything produced from memory later, and almost nobody is told to write it.
What do you refuse to do on a matter like this?
Put a figure on anything. Advise on which route to take. Write a version of events that is not what we were told. Approach the employer in a way that makes a legitimate request look like a threat. Prepare anything carrying a date other than the day it was made. And tell you how a proceeding will turn out, including informally when asked kindly, which is when the question is hardest to refuse.
Is this the kind of matter where we need an advocate?
Yes, and it is one of the clearest cases of that on this whole site, which is why we say it in several places rather than at the bottom. Our work ends where the proceeding begins, and the decisions that matter most — route, strategy, what to accept — are theirs from the start, not later. The sensible sequence is an advocate early and a complete file to hand them, because an advocate instructed with nothing has to spend the first month doing what we can do in a week.
What should we bring to the first conversation?
Whatever you already have, however incomplete, and the one page described above. The names of everybody involved, including the supervisor and the contractor if there was one. Any hospital or official paperwork as it stands. And a list of what you have asked for and not received, with the dates you asked — because that list, more than anything else, tells us where the next week should go.
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